Does not work on TB 38.01 for Mac Rated 1 out of 5 stars

Updated TB and voila - new UI means buttons disappear behind window functionality buttons on top left. Disabled all other add-ons and restarted TB but nothing helped. Note that the latest update was in 2012.

Feel free to send me a detailed bug descriptions via eMail, Ratings are not designed for bug reports and thus not really usable for discussion.

Regarding the latest update: up to now, the old version worked perfectly. So I didn't see a reason to publish any update for the sake of updating.

Oh thank you! Rated 5 out of 5 stars

I liked Thunderbird and Firefox just the way they were years ago, so anything that helps me get back to that is greatly appreciated. Works fine, no restart, just as described!

Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Awesome - thanks for helping to tell the developers where to stuff it!

Wished the Thunderbird and Firefox developers would grow some balls and stop copying Google!

Rated 5 out of 5 stars

5 out of 5. Does just what is says on the tin.

Mozilla really needs to stop making pointless UI changes.

Indispensable Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Indispensable depuis que l’option n'existe plus dans Thunderbird.
Grand merci.

Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Brilliant extension, combined with a theme that kills the Chrome-style title-bar, Thunderbird is now usable. You have helped save my sanity.

Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Thanks a lot - I have based my own extension "Menu On Top" on your code, so this gave me a great head start. Personally I like the tools close to the window contents, but I absolutely despise having the menu there all the time; so thanks for a good tool idea with a great restartless execution.

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Rated 5 out of 5 stars

A good extension! Thank You!

Rated 4 out of 5 stars

Great to have the menu bar back on top again. Wish it had the option to have the tool bar below the tabs, but can't have everything I suppose. Still better than the tabs on top.

Without add-on

What you want is possible without an add-on: create a folder "chrome" in your profile folder and add a file named "userChrome.css" with the following content:

#mail-toolbar-menubar2 {
-moz-box-ordinal-group: 10 !important;
#tabs-toolbar {
-moz-box-ordinal-group: 30 !important;

However, this add-on is required for moving the tool bar, as it is not moveable via userChrome. If you don't want to move your toolbar, you shouldn't need it ;)

If you struggle creating the userChrome, look at this article:

Great Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Must-have:fixes elements of the interface shuffled around for no sensible reason.

Does the job Rated 5 out of 5 stars

I can't find a good point (or a point for that matter) to getting the tab bar over the tool bar, but I can understand some people might find it better for themselves. then let us have *the choice* to toggle the position *to our liking*.isn't that what open source is all about ?

Works great in TB17esr Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Thank you so much! This is just what I was looking for.With this extension the design of my TB17 is handsome again :)
I really hope you will continue to develope / adapt this to the coming versions.

Super! Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Einfach klasse!

Thank you! Rated 5 out of 5 stars

My old about:config fix didn't work for Thunderbird 15 anymore, but your addon does the trick--thank you for fixing bugs Thunderbird developers building into the software!

Rated 4 out of 5 stars

Works fine but I would like to see one thing added ... it only handles the default tool bar ... it does not handle any additional tool bars that you add... other than that it is great.

I know that it does not handle other toolbars, and I made it that way for a reason: you can have a toolbar(s) for the mail tab only if you want to. This possibility would not exist if I would move all toolbars.

I understand that this answer does not help you directly, but maybe you can understand why I did it that way. I currently do not have the time for complex solutions like letting the user select toolbars, as I have some other projects I'm working on (and a real life, which is time consuming, too :P). However, I added this to my (long) todo list. Thanks for your feedback!

Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Schönes Add-on, gute Arbeit! Tut genau das was es sollte, endlich sind die Tabs wieder da wo sie sein sollten.

Kleiner Schönheitsfehler: Oberhalb der Toolleiste entsteht eine weisse Linie (Auch auf dem Screenshot zu sehen). Nichts gravierendes/störendes, doch würde mich interessieren ob es eine Möglichkeit gibt diese zu entfernen.

Ich persönlich mag die Linie (wobei ich zugebe, darüber fehlt eine dunklere Linie... mir irgendwie nie aufgefallen. Muss aber im Theme geändert werden, nicht in Rise of the Tools), würde mal sagen Geschmacksfrage ;) (Edit: Habe eine neue Fassung von IgnoreAero hochgeladen, die die Linie nun korrekt doppelt zieht: Außerdem würde eine solche Änderung natürlich auch auf andere Themes wirken, wenn ich sie in Rise of the Tools integriere.
Deshalb werde ich die Linie nicht entfernen, jedoch ist es möglich die Benutzeroberfläche frei anzupassen, indem man eine Datei namens "userChrome.css" im Unterverzeichnis "chrome" des Profilverzeichnisses erstelt; I.d.R. muss auch das Verzeichnis "chrome" neu erstellt werden.
Weitere Informationen:

Füge in diese Datei folgenden Code ein, um die Linie zu entfernen:

border-top: 0 !important;

Problem with Ubuntu Rated 3 out of 5 stars

Doesn't work well with Ubuntu's Unity desktop. The menu items should be hidden in Ubuntu's top panel but are instead ever present inside of Thunderbird. Spoils an otherwise effective add-on.

I don't use unity, so it is quite hard for me to follow your text. Could you make a screenshot?
How can menu items get hidden in a top panel not belonging to the application; isn't that part of the desktop manager and/or widgets only? Did that work with previous Thunderbird versions / does that work without the add-on installed?

Great Add-on!!! Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Thank you!!!!

This add-on is great, it puts everything where it should be.

To the rescue! Rated 5 out of 5 stars

I really did not like Thunderbird's arbitrarily moving the tabs above the toolbar without providing any way to turn that off. Rise of the Tools comes to the rescue and provides the means of getting the appearance of the window back to what I consider normal.

Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Thanks for this!

There's a special place in hell for all doofus devs who think they know how I want to use my computer better than I do! (They'll be sitting at a desk, coding. And all their semi-colons will move, and they'll have to move them all back. Over and over. Every day. Forever.) Grrr.