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Ich benutze RotT seit langem. Zuletzt störte eine Interaktion mit Menu On Top die einwandfreie Funktion, was aber durch einen Tipp des Entwicklers schnell erkannt wurde. Nun läuft wieder alles.
(diese Antwort bezieht sich auf eine vorherige Version der Rezension, in der ein Problem geschildert wurde. Die Ursache war vermutlich ein die parallele Verwendung des Add-on "Menu On Top", das ebenfalls in die Reihenfolge der Toolbars eingreift)
Auf meinen Geräten funktioniert das Add-on, habe aber auch kein Windows 10. Gibt es Meldungen in der Fehlerkonsole (Extras|Fehlerkonsole)? Die Bewertungsfunktion ist für Fehlerberichte aber nur wenig hilfreich, da ich lediglich einmal antworten kann; ich bitte um Antwort per E-Mail (siehe "E-Mail-Adresse für Hilfestellungen" in der Seitenleiste).
Perfect. Thanks for keeping TBird first-class. This capability is important to me. BTW: Finding this add-on was a bit tricky - my typical TBird Add-on searches didn't display it. Web searches did. Strange.
This is due to the fact that Mozilla actively prevents users from finding addons that do not pass a so-called "full review". A full review requires an add-on to not trigger compatibility issues, and moving a toolbar has tons of possible issues. Thus, this add-on is marked as experimental (which is a good thing, as it indeed is likely to break stuff) and not available for in-application searching (which is imho a bad thing, but I guess we can be happy that Mozilla permits such add-ons at all).
I like new things and don't mind changes. But ever since the "tabs" came up, I had 2-3 millimeters to grab the stupid window and move it around on my desktop. What a crock! I don't know how many times I detached my calendar tab or some other tab to a "new window" just because I did not make it into the 2-3 mil "safe" zone that was the window header bar. What a bunch of bull for a user interface! This extension restores the sanity and lets you navigate around much more safely by avoiding unexpected unpleasantness. Very, very, very much appreciated. Give this one a 5-star any day! PS: search for"rise" does not yield anything... Don't know why... seems unique enough... search for "tools" and you'll find it. Pleasant emailing... -ml
Like many, many others, I don't care for the "tabs on top" user interface. I was really grateful that someone had written an add-on which restores the original UI!
When changes in Thunderbird 38 broke this add-on on the Mac, I contacted its developer directly, who promptly responded with a fix for the problem!
Highly recommended as an add-on for doing its job flawlessly, and kudos to rsjtdrjgfuzkfg for being fantastically responsive to my bug report.
I've been trying to get my Thunderbird's tabs down where they belong ever since the TB "developers" decided to screw them up. I've always searched for some variation of "tabs" and "down", when I should have been searching for "toolbar" and "menubar" "up". I must improve my google-fu ...!!
Anyway, this add-on work just fine with TB 38.3.0, running the TT DeepDark theme. Does just what it says, without a bunch of settings or extra cruft to sort thru.
Now let's see how long it will keep working as I hear tell that the "developers" are trying to do away with add-ons for Firefox, and presumably, Thunderbird in the next year ... sigh ...!
Thank you so very much !!!
Updated TB and voila - new UI means buttons disappear behind window functionality buttons on top left. Disabled all other add-ons and restarted TB but nothing helped. Note that the latest update was in 2012.
Feel free to send me a detailed bug descriptions via eMail, Ratings are not designed for bug reports and thus not really usable for discussion.
Regarding the latest update: up to now, the old version worked perfectly. So I didn't see a reason to publish any update for the sake of updating.
I liked Thunderbird and Firefox just the way they were years ago, so anything that helps me get back to that is greatly appreciated. Works fine, no restart, just as described!
Awesome - thanks for helping to tell the developers where to stuff it!
Wished the Thunderbird and Firefox developers would grow some balls and stop copying Google!
5 out of 5. Does just what is says on the tin.
Mozilla really needs to stop making pointless UI changes.
Indispensable depuis que l’option n'existe plus dans Thunderbird.
Brilliant extension, combined with a theme that kills the Chrome-style title-bar, Thunderbird is now usable. You have helped save my sanity.
Thanks a lot - I have based my own extension "Menu On Top" on your code, so this gave me a great head start. Personally I like the tools close to the window contents, but I absolutely despise having the menu there all the time; so thanks for a good tool idea with a great restartless execution.
A good extension! Thank You!
Great to have the menu bar back on top again. Wish it had the option to have the tool bar below the tabs, but can't have everything I suppose. Still better than the tabs on top.
What you want is possible without an add-on: create a folder "chrome" in your profile folder and add a file named "userChrome.css" with the following content:
-moz-box-ordinal-group: 10 !important;
-moz-box-ordinal-group: 30 !important;
However, this add-on is required for moving the tool bar, as it is not moveable via userChrome. If you don't want to move your toolbar, you shouldn't need it ;)
If you struggle creating the userChrome, look at this article: http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css
Must-have:fixes elements of the interface shuffled around for no sensible reason.
I can't find a good point (or a point for that matter) to getting the tab bar over the tool bar, but I can understand some people might find it better for themselves. then let us have *the choice* to toggle the position *to our liking*.isn't that what open source is all about ?
Thank you so much! This is just what I was looking for.With this extension the design of my TB17 is handsome again :)
I really hope you will continue to develope / adapt this to the coming versions.
My old about:config fix didn't work for Thunderbird 15 anymore, but your addon does the trick--thank you for fixing bugs Thunderbird developers building into the software!
Works fine but I would like to see one thing added ... it only handles the default tool bar ... it does not handle any additional tool bars that you add... other than that it is great.
I know that it does not handle other toolbars, and I made it that way for a reason: you can have a toolbar(s) for the mail tab only if you want to. This possibility would not exist if I would move all toolbars.
I understand that this answer does not help you directly, but maybe you can understand why I did it that way. I currently do not have the time for complex solutions like letting the user select toolbars, as I have some other projects I'm working on (and a real life, which is time consuming, too :P). However, I added this to my (long) todo list. Thanks for your feedback!
Schönes Add-on, gute Arbeit! Tut genau das was es sollte, endlich sind die Tabs wieder da wo sie sein sollten.
Kleiner Schönheitsfehler: Oberhalb der Toolleiste entsteht eine weisse Linie (Auch auf dem Screenshot zu sehen). Nichts gravierendes/störendes, doch würde mich interessieren ob es eine Möglichkeit gibt diese zu entfernen.
Ich persönlich mag die Linie (wobei ich zugebe, darüber fehlt eine dunklere Linie... mir irgendwie nie aufgefallen. Muss aber im Theme geändert werden, nicht in Rise of the Tools), würde mal sagen Geschmacksfrage ;) (Edit: Habe eine neue Fassung von IgnoreAero hochgeladen, die die Linie nun korrekt doppelt zieht: https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/addon/ignore-aero/versions/18.104.22.168) Außerdem würde eine solche Änderung natürlich auch auf andere Themes wirken, wenn ich sie in Rise of the Tools integriere.
Deshalb werde ich die Linie nicht entfernen, jedoch ist es möglich die Benutzeroberfläche frei anzupassen, indem man eine Datei namens "userChrome.css" im Unterverzeichnis "chrome" des Profilverzeichnisses erstelt; I.d.R. muss auch das Verzeichnis "chrome" neu erstellt werden.
Weitere Informationen: http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css
Füge in diese Datei folgenden Code ein, um die Linie zu entfernen:
border-top: 0 !important;
Doesn't work well with Ubuntu's Unity desktop. The menu items should be hidden in Ubuntu's top panel but are instead ever present inside of Thunderbird. Spoils an otherwise effective add-on.
I don't use unity, so it is quite hard for me to follow your text. Could you make a screenshot?
How can menu items get hidden in a top panel not belonging to the application; isn't that part of the desktop manager and/or widgets only? Did that work with previous Thunderbird versions / does that work without the add-on installed?
This add-on is great, it puts everything where it should be.
I really did not like Thunderbird's arbitrarily moving the tabs above the toolbar without providing any way to turn that off. Rise of the Tools comes to the rescue and provides the means of getting the appearance of the window back to what I consider normal.
Thanks for this!
There's a special place in hell for all doofus devs who think they know how I want to use my computer better than I do! (They'll be sitting at a desk, coding. And all their semi-colons will move, and they'll have to move them all back. Over and over. Every day. Forever.) Grrr.