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Get rid of the big Circle back button. The oval back and forward buttons are so much better, bring them back.
Unlike some folks, I have been paying attention to the rationale behind the keyhole buttons, and I agree with the thinking there. I quite like the keyhole; my one objection is the fact that the history button is essentially a trough, which is imho a usability no-no.
I'm not a fan of brushed metal, but that's not on Firefox, it's Apple's decision. Insofar as brushed metal is the de facto look and feel of OS X nowadays, Firefox does a fine job of looking like a native application.
As for those who are complaining about the removal of the home button: View | Toolbars | Customize is your friend...
I don't know where people get the idea Apple's UI is so consistent. Safari's toolbar doesn't look much like Mail's. And to me, Mail looks much better. I don't see the advantage of everything in greyscale, and particularly the New Tab and New Window icons would be incomprehensible without labels.
I am going to have to agree with just about every other user and say that this is a HUGE regression. I thought the idea of Friefox 3\'s new themes were going to be to integrate with the OS that it was running on? Proto .12 is NOT Mac-like. For one, have you ever seen the combination large back/small forward button anywhere in jthe OS? The only place I have ever seen it is Windows. And the pill buttons that were introduced in .10 are deffinately not the dominent interface in the OS. If you want to emulate the OS\' GUI, then why not emulate Finder\'s? The only apps with pill buttons are Mail and Preview and I was really hoping that if Firefox was getting a more OS X theme then the new Thunderbird 3 would and I could get rid of Mail. THis is by far the worse version of Proto. Why not listen to the vast majority and go back to the way the buttons were in 0.9?
... hey guys,
if you don't like the rounded button, switch to small buttons and you have the "old" version, which you want. i think its a nice solution for all users and come more and more closer, i love it...
I don't see what's so hard here, honestly, just copy safari and be done with it. If you really are so opposed to straight copying safari, try something along the lines of camino. Camino is most definitely its own visual style, and yet it still works very well with os x (notice how they updated the theme for leopard). This current version (.12.2) is atrocious to put it nicely. Honestly, single individuals are putting out better work than however many of you are working on this theme.
This is a great theme for the Mac, and contrary to what most of the other comments say, integrates with the OS UI very well. Rounded buttons *are* used in Mac OS X (take a look at Mail.app) and they distinguish Firefox from Safari, rather than making it a clone. I don't like the large back button, but once switched to small buttons that is removed. I would suggest that you make the small buttons option the default.
One problem I *have* noticed is that there is no graphite version. I use graphite as my default theme and, unfortunately, this theme uses blue (aqua) highlights around the search and url boxes whether your Appearance is set to Aqua or Graphite. Please find a solution to this (even if it is to offer a second version).
ladies and gentlemen please welcome osx firefox vista media player!!
you gotta be kidding :) !! this version is uglier than the previous one!
the sad thing... proto is the default theme for the upcoming firefox3
metal rounded buttons (0.10) ugly unconsistent gui element
metal mediaplayer vista buttons (0.12) no comment...
hope someone in the devteam see the light and choose another default theme
i used to love proto, i've switch to firefox for proto(.9)... the lighter tabbar was/is very nice... the only nice thing left :S
try to take a look at:
Designing Toolbar Icons:
"The capsule-style toolbar control can be used in toolbars, but should not be used in bottom bars. The capsule-style toolbar control is a versatile control that can be used as a push button, a toggle button, or a segmented control. Figure 15-5 highlights one of the variations of the capsule-style toolbar control in a Preview window."
there's no metal capsule gui element at all in the apple interface guidlines, and rounded input text fields belong to "spotlight" (search related) an url field must be squared.
firefox has a buttonbar not a toolbar!!
the plastic/capsule buttons are documented the metal ones no... and the last design(.12) maybe you look to much at wista :)
I don\'t care much for the keyhole, but the small icon set looks nice. I, for one, like the rounded buttons and location bar, and would hate to see them changed just to look more like Safari. It\'s both more distinctive and more attractive this way. Thanks for changing Stop back to a plain X, by the way.\r\n\r\nHowever, I definitely concur that the bookmark star should be black again. If not black, then please use a gold star like the other themes, rather than this garish blue. Active tabs still don\'t look right when the bookmark bar is hidden, or when another toolbar is displayed below it. Also, the search engine text should be gray, to show at a glance that it\'s default text.\r\n\r\nSpeaking of the search field, how about making the entire end cap turn blue on Open Search sites, a la the location bar?\r\n\r\nObviously, 12.2 has introduced a few bugs like favicon misplacement and funky rich results display, but I\'m sure those will be fixed soon. Thanks, and keep up the good work!
It is apparent and obvious where we are going with this new theme and I am not happy, I would like this to be considered as I am a designer and fine artist.
The buttons were really nice in early builds, then they became oval and now we have a massive round 'back' button, in some sort of IE/Modernist move. This is wrong, especially for OS X, it disrupts the native feel of the system and the GUI doesn't feel right, it doesn't run right through the system, you switch from a Mac App to this and you realise that it is too different.
I don't want to criticise whether the round button is good design or not, it is, it is rather sexy. But there are other apps on Mac too and it needs to be considered, it doesn't fit right.
What should be done: Safari-like Rectangle buttons needed, an option to bring the home button back, when bookmarks bar is disabled the tabs colour clashes with the main interface, the yellow star needs to come back (the blue one is intrusive).
Basically, it needs to be more like a real Mac app, otherwise you could loose Firefox users and you could always release the current build as an optional download for those who like the round button.
I Love the keyhole back and forward buttons.
The new buttons are absolutely horrific! PLEASE change them back to 0.9.x Those buttons were by far the best buttons you have had on this theme. I do not want it to look like the Windows version!
Also PLEAsE get rid of the blue!
When I first heard of Proto it was 0.9.1 and I absolutely fell in LOVE with it. Then you changed it so the browser was taking drugs (Round pill buttons)! Now makeing it more Windows like when even the Windows people don't even like their OWN?!?! WHY?!?!?!?!
Wait... Are you even listening? Hello?!?!?
First, this theme is turning out to be beautiful. But it's not a mac integration theme. Just making the theme (almost) the same color as the OS does not integrate it into the system. We need a skin that is consistent with the Apple UI. Users pick up visual cues from the shape of buttons, shadows, text boxes, search boxes, etc. Apple is finally getting their act together to make a consistent UI, and there is no excuse to not follow it.
There is nothing wrong with the direction this theme is going, but it is not an integration theme. A great way to fix this is the make it look more like Safari. Yes, I know that's not creative, but Safari is an excellent example of of Apple's UI. That means getting rid of the silly round bubble buttons and rounded address bar.
...but it's all over now.
You've totally lost the plot in the latest releases... the round buttons suck. It's getting LESS Mac-like with every release.
Might as well hand the job over to Radiant Core again at this rate.
Back to Grapple for me.
The official theme of Firefox on OSX should be IMHO this one:
THIS looks like an OSX application.
Proto is becoming uglier and uglier. It just doesn't look like an OSX application. Sorry, nothing wrong with the developers.
The rounded buttons work nicely. I know there are going to be people who side either with the square-ish and round-ish buttons, but at the least, the round buttons are slightly wider (more clickable area without sacrificing vertical real estate), and somehow the button borders look smoother on the rounder buttons than the ones in Safari. Good job!
A couple minor gripes off the top of my head - the pale yellow URL for secure websites doesn't quite stand out enough. I like the subtle yellow shade, but it barely noticed I was in a secure area. Also, this may not be theme's fault, but the browser is still only draggable via the titlebar.
The new rounded buttons totally ruin the theme. Is there any chance I could get your permission to branch the theme from .91?
giving you a "9" for the 0.9.1 release. Sticking with that one for the time being. It fits in with every other Leopard app. I don't know if you guys get any kind of profiling/reporting tools about who's using your extension, but I'd be curious to see what the adoption rate of .10 and .11 are compared to 0.9, which a vocal group seems to have been happy with.
Just wanted to chime in with a thanks for all the hard work... but I too have switched back to the 0.91, square button version.
The rounded buttons don't fit. Look at Safari - square buttons.
As I'd like to borrow from the windows camp... I've "upgraded" to proto 0.9.1
The rounded buttons make this absolutely horrible. Please go back to the rectangular buttons.
PLEASE REVERT! Everyone's asking for it! Don't be so stubborn! Nobody likes those rounded toolbar buttons!
I love'd the theme, but updated this morning (feb 7, 08) and now it looks definitely different than it did before.. formatting's all screwed up on the bar now to. Definitely a downgrade and step back.
I really like this but it needs some work especially with the download window